[TheRedRooster]

Hey guys, how are you?

Woke up nice and early today, and drove out to lancelin, about an hour and a half from my house.

Got there and unloaded, and started the bike up. It took a little while because it was still really cold and had been on the back of the trailer for so long.

Anyway it started and I left it for a few minutes while I put my gear on. I turned it off and went and grabbed a drink and did some other stuff quickly.

Started the bike again first kick. Took off no worries. Changed into second and stalled. Then for the next 2 hours I couldn't start the thing. Tried like 308740734898 kick start attempts, getting towed behind bike and car and good old push starts. No go.

Made no odd sounds before dying. No smoke.

The week before that ride I changed all the oils, filter and coolant. Also took the header off and tried that freezer thing. Valves set a few rides ago. Carby reset at same time. Air filter oiled before ride.

One other thing I noticed that was odd was that the amount I can twist my throttle, compared to my mates crf is very very small. from closed to full open was a slight movement. And after I kicked it over (and it failing to start) an airleak noise could be heard, but it was too hard to pinpoint where from.

Anything like this happened to anyone? Any ideas?

Ta for reading anyway. What a weekend I lost my tax check and ruined a days riding for my mate.

Cheers.

[Zish]

that sucks , i hope you get it all figured out.
hang in there man

[TDW]

After driving there and not get to ride would definetly be disappointing, almost sounds like what happens when running out of gas or forgetting to turn the gas on. Could it be bad gas or some gunk in the carb plugging a passage or a jet?

[TDW]

Is the throttle travel different than what it used to be, or just different than on your buddies bike?

[KevinM]

NO idea if you've got a problem with the bike, but that seems like a long time to get it started.

What seems to work after a stall is....

Kick it through as slow as you can... three times with throttle open.

Then kick it again with the hot start pulled in. I've found that works for me.

[Monkeywrench]

Something to check:

if you've just done a valve-clearance check, it might be possible for the head-cover gasket to not be fully seated. I ran into this very thing about a month ago. My bike would start and idle alright, but as soon as I gave it gas it died.

Just something that came to mind -- check it out... might be something as simple as this.
Good luck.

[TheRedRooster]

yeah throttle travel is definitly different to what it was. Thanks everyone for your replies and sympathy, gonna play around with it when I get a chance... was thinking maybe it's electrical as I cannot get it to start whatsoever anymore.

cheers.

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Well.
Anytime you get a problem right after doing a bunch of maintenance you can pretty much bet that something done during the maintenance has caused the problem.
At first I though it sure sounds like maybe the air filter was over oiled and it caused the bike to flood, but that throttle travel thing has to be a major deal, especially if it's something that just started to happen.
I'd do whatever I needed to do to diagnose that, along with the usual suspects like a clogged pilot jet.
Look at your plug. After all those starting attempts if it's not good and wet then there's a fuel supply problem, which would lead you to the pilot jet or further carb problems related to that weird throttle travel thing.
So, first I'd go try and start it , then pull the plug and see what you've got there. let us know what happens.
Doug

[TheRedRooster]

Will do mate the second i get a chance, thanks for the help thus far everyone.

[k7033h]

I had the same thing happen once when I went riding. But my day started with 1 kick and a broken kickstarter. Then I pushed the bike. It started and then died. The throttle would only twist about 1/4 turn compared to what it was before. I then relized I forgot to take the rag out of the airbox before I put my filter on. The rag was stuck (Thankfully) on the slider and the slider would not go down all the way. I removed the rag and the bike ran great after that. ( I still had to push start it though).

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The throttle would only twist about 1/4 turn compared to what it was before. I then relized I forgot to take the rag out of the airbox before I put my filter on.

That shpuld send up a red flag. Or a red rag !
Really, how many things can cause a sudden restriction in throttle movement ? Doug

[jarich42]

I had the exact same thing happen to me as well and I too had left a rag inside the air box. When the rag got sucked into the carb the slide couldn't move up and down thus greatly reducing the amount that the throttle could twist. After removing the rag all was well.

good luck.

[TheRedRooster]

Hahaha I think jarich42, k7033h and myself may have been dropped on our heads as children. Well definitly me anyway. Pulled out a nice big dirty rag that had chocked my carby wide open, and thus minimising the amount of travel I had in my throttle.

Feel like a jackass. Oh well will try and make up for a lost weekend tomorrow; Lancelin round 2.

Thanks for the help guys

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Feel like a jackass

Oh don't.
Guess how most of us came to suggest you look at that possibilty ?
Doug

[djh65]

Keep in mind you were bold enough to tell your story. I would bet all of us (I have many) stories of things we should have know better about. I have even told some of my stories.
David