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    Arizona Senator

    by paul turner » Wed May 05, 2010 10:19 pm

    Read below what an Arizona senator has to say about the new Arizona Immigration bill that was passed and signed into law.

    It is far better to get you news from those who deal with the problem first hand, rather than from the taking heads on main stream media. There is nothing more deceiving or misleading than a 30 second sound bite.



    "Our peculiar security is in the possession of a written Constitution. Let us not make it a blank paper by construction." --Thomas Jefferson, letter to Wilson Nicholas, 1803







    http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf

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    by Jim Kelley on May.01, 2010, under Life, Politics, crime

    State Senator Sylvia Allen responds to SB1070


    I’m Arizona State Senator Sylvia Allen. I want to explain SB 1070 for which I voted yes. Rancher Robert Krentz was murdered by the drug cartel on his ranch a month ago. I participated in a senate hearing two weeks ago on the border violence, here is just some of the highlights from those who testified.

    The people who live within 60 to 80 miles of the Arizona/Mexico Border have for years been terrorized and have pleaded for help to stop the daily invasion of humans who cross their property . One Rancher testified that 300 to 1200 people a DAY come across his ranch vandalizing his property, stealing his vehicles and property, cutting down his fences, and leaving trash. In the last two years he has found 17 dead bodies and two Koran bibles. Another rancher testified that daily drugs are brought across his ranch in a military operation. A point man with a machine gun goes in front, 1/2 mile behind are the guards fully armed, 1/2 mile behind them are the drugs, behind the drugs 1/2 mile are more guards. These people are violent and they will kill anyone who gets in the way. This was not the only rancher we heard that day that talked about the drug trains. One man told of two illegal’s who came upon his property one shot in the back and the other in the arm by the drug runners who had forced them to carry the drugs and then shot them. Daily they listen to gun fire during the night it is not safe to leave his family alone on the ranch and they can’t leave the ranch for fear of nothing being left when they come back.

    The border patrol is not on the border. They have set up 60 miles away with check points that do nothing to stop the invasion. They are not allowed to use force in stopping anyone who is entering. They run around chasing them, if they get their hands on them then they can take them back across the border. Federal prisons have over 35% illegal’s and 20% of Arizona prisons are filled with illegal’s. In the last few years 80% of our law enforcement that have been killed or wounded have been by an illegal. The majority of people coming now are people we need to be worried about. The ranchers told us that they have seen a change in the people coming they are not just those who are looking for work and a better life.

    The Federal Government has refused for years to do anything to help the border states . We have been over run and once they are here we have the burden of funding state services that they use. Education costs have been over a billion dollars. The healthcare cost billions of dollars. Our State is broke, $3.5 billion deficit and we have many serious decisions to make. One is that we do not have the money to care for any who are not here legally. It has to stop.

    The border can be secured. We have the technology and we have the ability to stop this invasion. We must know who is coming and they must come in an organized manner legally so that we can assimilate them into our population and protect the sovereignty of our country. We are a nation of laws. We have a responsibility to protect our citizens and to protect the integrity of our country and the government which we live under. I would give amnesty today to many, but here is the problem, we dare not do this until the Border is secure. It will do no good to give them amnesty because thousands will come behind them and we will be over run to the point that there will no longer be the United States of America but a North American Union of open borders. I ask you what form of government will we live under? How long will it be before we will be just like Mexico , Canada or any of the other Central American or South American country? We have already lost our language, everything must be printed in Spanish. We have already lost our history, it is no longer taught in our schools, and we have lost our borders.

    The leftist media has distorted what SB 1070 will do. It is not going to set up a Nazi Germany. Are you kidding? The ACLU and the leftist courts will do everything to protect those who are here illegally, but it was an effort to try and stop illegal’s from setting up businesses, and employment, and receiving state services and give the ability to local law enforcement when there is probable cause, like a traffic stop, to determine if they are here legally. Federal law is very clear, if you are here on a visa you must have your papers on you at all times. That is the law. In Arizona all you need to show you are a legal citizen is a driver license, MVD identification card, Native American Card, or a Military ID. This is what you need to vote or get a hunting license. So nothing new has been added to this law. No one is going to be stopped walking down the street. The Socialists who are in power in DC are angry because we dare try and do something.The Socialists wants us to just let them come. They want the “Transformation” to continue.

    Maybe it is too late to save America . Maybe we are not worthy of freedom anymore. But as an elected official I must try to do what I can to protect our Constitutional Republic . Living in America is not a right just because you can walk across the border. Being an American is a responsibility and it comes by respecting and upholding the Constitution, the law of our land, which says what you must do to be a citizen of this country. FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.

    Senator Sylvia Allen .
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    by KevinM » Thu May 06, 2010 6:23 am

    Yes, the situation is serious down there Paul. But not to worry, Prez O is on the job. He's going to push for "comprehensive immigration reform".

    Allow me to translate

    That means:
    -make the illegals...LEGAL.. just like that...Poof!

    -Add these new citizens to the ObamaCare roles...that would add $500 billion more debt.

    -Get them registered to vote... that would be the real reason they want "reform".

    -Talk about, but not DO anything about border security.

    -Thank John McCain, Olympia Snowe and Lindsay Graham for "crossing the aisle" and getting this important legislation done.


    There ya go. Immigration Reform in a Nutshell.

    Seriously though, it makes me sick to think that these politicians (of both parties) will sit and watch ... do nothing .... while people property is destroyed, lives are at risk and our social order crumbles.... Why? Because they don't want to offend citizen hispanics and really really want the votes of these illegals.... somehow...some way. They don't give a damn about the rest of us. It's about their political careers.

    They all need to be tossed out of office.


    And these ranchers who see this....

    A point man with a machine gun goes in front, 1/2 mile behind are the guards fully armed, 1/2 mile behind them are the drugs


    I'm not sure I'd be allowing some guy with an AK at the ready to cross my property and live. What would happen if our kids were out riding and stumbled across these guys? Face to face. Because they don't just cross at night anymore. They have learned that they can come through that area with impunity. If 15 or 20 of this drug running filth were to be picked off from 400 or 500 yds out and never see it coming, the rest might think twice about making the trek. I know... talk is cheap. But how long will it be before some rancher picks up his 30-06 starts clearing his land of armed trespassers?

    Sorry for the rant, but I understand the situation at the border is very, very bad. And the idiots in Washington responsible for protecting that border just shrug and hope we'll just stop asking them about it.

    Frustrating situation. At least the Gov af AZ is doing something about it and has the support of most of her state.
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    by slomotobug » Thu May 06, 2010 9:32 am

    FINALLY! Someone got past the 30 second media blip! I live in AZ and Casa Grande at that, where a Sherrif deputy was gunned down in the desert a few weeks ago. I see the trails and crap left behind by the drug and human smugglers. I am so sick of hearing nothing but the stupid people (Obama, Sharpton, etc) that are screaming we are a racist state, when in fact, the law we just passed is and has been a FEDERAL law for years, just not enforced, really all this new law does is allow our state, county and city police to enforce it as a state law. People all over the country are up in arms about this because of the 25% that oppose it and are making the noise. I really wish people would read and hear the facts before passing judgment on our state and our people. As far as McCain goes, he is actually doing everything he can to get our border safe. It makes me SICK to see our former governor Napolitano, who when our governor would have signed this bill without hesitation and fully supported anything to get our border safe, but now as Secretary of homeland security and a pawn for Obama, she has spoken against this law and our state, dispicable!

    It is absolutely rediculous that this has come down to a dem against rep thing, it has NOTHING to do with politics, it has to do with the safety of our state and our people and the money that is wasted on people here ILLEGALLY! that is the term everyone seems to be forgetting, ILLEGAL. This is a law to enforce on people here ILEGALLY, not just anyone with dark skin or that doesn't speak english. If you are here legally and are doing nothing illegal, then you nothing to worry about!

    There I'm done now
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    by jtsurfs » Thu May 06, 2010 2:55 pm

    I agree with what others have shared on here. I have wondered why here in Kalifornia more isn't done to remove illegals committing crimes. Instead we place them in jail here and pay for their stay. If they are here illegally and they commit a crime, we should deport them into the law enforcement of their country. If that country will not impose a penalty on them, then we impose sanctions on that country. We need to quit being the country everyone pokes with the stick and we do nothing about it.

    No I hope no one sees this as being a racist statement as all I am saying is we need to quit locking up illegal immigrants then releasing them back into our country to commit more crimes.
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    by slomotobug » Thu May 06, 2010 5:08 pm

    jtsurfs wrote: we need to quit locking up illegal immigrants then releasing them back into our country to commit more crimes.


    In AZ we have been releasing them to the Mexico officials and we have even sent them by bus deep into the country only to have them return and continue commiting crimes. Nothing seems to be working, they need to figure it out soon.
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    by KevinM » Thu May 06, 2010 8:34 pm

    Slomotobug. Just something to be aware of about John McCain. I believe he is doing and saying what he is now out of necessity for an election. You may remember he was among those pushing for Amnesty in 2008 and prior. Particularly in 2007 when they tried to get "reform" through.

    He also hired Juan Hernandez for his campaign. Juan Hernandez is all about legalizing illegals. He was a member of the Mexican Gov't and hold dual citizenship. McCain also Pandered to La Raza. They are a radical group that believes in open borders. As does Juan "My Friends" Hernandez. And McCain objected to the fence until it became clear that America demanded it. His quote about it was something like "Ok, we'll build the damned fence."

    So while his service to our country was admirable, if not heroic, his position on illegal immigration is not, in my humble opinion, and with all due respect, in America's best interest.

    Remember, that Amnesty for illegals has new meaning since ObamaCare came to be. The second they get to be citizens, they are covered. It's going to bankrupt us even faster and invite more illegal border crossing. They'd have to be crazy NOT to come here. We're giving away all this free stuff!
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