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    Re: real victory

    by Asmith » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:19 am

    Four-Fifty-X wrote:
    bw wrote:What I meant is it's not as much of a rebuke to Obama as people say it is. There were far left blogs saying hold your nose and vote for Brown because of Coakley's record.


    What is better evidence? Far-left blogs or scientific polls?

    The polls of course, and they suggest that independents made the difference and for them, it was a rebuke on Obama.


    Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...it wasn't a rebuke...it was another "bad" candidate... :shock:
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    by Four-Fifty-X » Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:22 am

    And to quote a well-noted politico:

    "It's rather entertaining to watch the democrat's circular firing squad."
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    Re: real victory

    by bw » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:52 pm

    Four-Fifty-X wrote:What is better evidence? Far-left blogs or scientific polls?


    Depends on what you're trying to determine.
    "scientific" polls are anything but. Exit polling called the race for Coakley in Boston.
    You can make a poll say anything you want by wording the question right.

    The point is that members of the leftist base were against her.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm glad it happened, but it's not smart to read too much into it, especially because that can lead to complacence. You want to declare victory, wait until their superstars lose.
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    Re: real victory

    by Asmith » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:23 pm

    bw wrote: You want to declare victory, wait until their superstars lose.


    I hope Reid falls into that category...I hope Boxer falls into that category...I hope... :D
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    by woodsman » Thu Jan 21, 2010 8:01 pm

    Reid, Pelosi, and Boxer all gone would be awesome. 8)
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    by paul turner » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:03 pm

    SuperStar Ted Kennedy lost, now didn't he ;)



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    by bw » Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:15 pm

    paul turner wrote:SuperStar Ted Kennedy lost, now didn't he ;)


    I'd say not - he went out on top, and what happens now doesn't much matter to him.
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    by paul turner » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:37 pm

    bw wrote:
    paul turner wrote:SuperStar Ted Kennedy lost, now didn't he ;)


    I'd say not - he went out on top, and what happens now doesn't much matter to him.


    Lovely record, put him on top :roll:

    Respected by those who benefitted from this:


    The Real Kennedy Record

    Ted Kennedy was a strong supporter of the 1965 Hart-Celler Act — signed into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson — which dramatically changed US immigration policy. This legislation replaced the Immigration Act of 1924, which favored immigrants from northern and western Europe. Proponents of the 1965 bill argued that immigration laws and quotas were discriminatory, and that American immigration policy should accept people not on the basis of their nationality.


    Ted Kennedy has been a staunch supporter of gun control initiatives. In 2006 he was one of the 16 senators who voted against the Vitter Amendment, which prohibited the confiscation of legally-possessed firearms during a disaster.


    Ted Kennedy has …opposed additional Alaska oil drilling. However, he opposes the Cape Wind wind turbine project which would occur near his home.


    Kennedy is one of only five senators who have publicly announced support for same-sex marriage.


    He voted against the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act. Wikipedia.com


    In 2004, Senator Kennedy cosponsored a bipartisan amendment to strengthen the ability of federal, state, and local governments to investigate and prosecute hate crimes.


    Senator Kennedy introduced legislation to prohibit employment discrimination based on sexual orientation.


    To help in the fight against AIDS, Senator Kennedy cosponsored an amendment to provide additional funding for prevention and treatment activities in Africa. TedKennedy.com


    Voted NO on recommending constitutional ban on flag desecration. (Jun 2006)


    Voted NO on constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. (Jun 2006)


    Voted YES on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002)


    Voted YES on loosening restrictions on cell phone wiretapping. (Oct 2001)


    Voted YES on expanding hate crimes to include sexual orientation. (Jun 2000)


    Voted YES on setting aside 10% of highway funds for minorities & women. (Mar 1998)


    Voted YES on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)


    Voted NO on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)


    Voted NO on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995)


    Voted NO on declaring English the official language of the US government. (Jun 2007)


    Voted YES on allowing illegals to participate in Social Security.(May 2006) ontheissues.org



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    by Four-Fifty-X » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:45 pm

    Nice Paul.

    More subjectively: Ted was drunken pile.

    Don't forget Chappaquiddick. Never mind, I already mentioned the drunkard thing.
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    by Asmith » Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:59 pm

    On a positive note, he was an excellent swimmer... :shock:
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    by paul turner » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:01 pm

    Four-Fifty-X wrote:Nice Paul.

    More subjectively: Ted was drunken pile.

    Don't forget Chappaquiddick. Never mind, I already mentioned the drunkard thing.


    On a positive note, he was an excellent swimmer...



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    by instigator » Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:26 pm

    ~ wrote:On a positive note, he was an excellent swimmer... :shock:


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    by Roady » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:38 pm

    ~ wrote:I hope that they really believe it was the candidates fault...I hope that they don't get it.

    If they do get it, then they will make the necessary changes to appease the dissenters and continue to hold power.

    If they don't get it, we will...


    Based on Obama claiming the election of Brown was the same dissatisfaction with Bush that brought him to power, I doubt they get it yet ... but they will. For some weird reason, his comments reminded me of President Bush standing on the pile of rubble at Ground Zero:

    Rescue Worker (make this Obama): I can't hear you!

    President Bush (make this the American people): I can hear you! I can hear you! The rest of the world hears you! And the people -- and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!
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