CRF230 jetting problems PLEASE HELP
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    CRF230 jetting problems PLEASE HELP

    by CRF230RiPPER » Sat Jun 16, 2007 8:33 pm

    bought the power up kit that is used to do the upgrade and installed it per this website

    http://dirtbike.off-road.com/dirtbike/a ... ?id=380749

    My Dad and I followed the instructions carefully and everything went smooth. The problem we are having is the drain from the carb is shooting out gas like crazy...we asked several people what the problem could be i.e. the service dept at Honda dealership and most suggestions were the float in the carb was stuck...we checked that , looks to be ok....the needle looks fine also. We are really stumped here....if anyone has any suggestions or answers as to what might be causing this please help.

    the bike runs perfectly even with the gas coming out , however its way too much to be a normal thing...i mean it seems the carb is just getting too much gas and getting overflowed consequently coming out of the drain tube... also the little white piece inside the float we think we have on right, if anyone has the carb dynamics,service manual diagram or pics please contact me...any help would be appreciated


    PLEASE HELP SOMEONE

    Thanks
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    by CRF230RiPPER » Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:14 am

    we double cheked the float again, and also tested the top part of the float bowl by connecting the gas tank to it and pushing the float pin mechanism to see if it would stop the gas from flowing into the bowl....The gas is actually flowing right down thru where the float connects...and doesn't appear to be flowing thru the jets...It makes no sense. We figured the gas would come thru the jets, but again it is flowing thru where the float connects....is this the way its suppose to operate?
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    by gal8x » Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:28 am

    No it is not possible. What you are seeing is the fuel is flowing past the float valve and then running along the float pin. You have one or more of these problems; bad float valve, bad float valve seat, debris preventing the float valve from seating correctly, a miss adjusted float arm lip.
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    by ScottX » Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:37 am

    The float pushes up on the needle when the tip of the needle (pointed end) touches the seat it stops the flow of gas (the gas flow around the needle into the float bowl and is then sucked up through the jets)

    With the float bowl removed and the needle and float in place the gas flow should stop when the float is lifted if gas is still coming out you may have debris in the needle/seat or it is damaged.

    Scott
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    by ScottX » Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:45 am

    Is the float bowl drain screw turned in and seated?
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    by CRF230RiPPER » Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:12 pm

    ScottX wrote:The float pushes up on the needle when the tip of the needle (pointed end) touches the seat it stops the flow of gas (the gas flow around the needle into the float bowl and is then sucked up through the jets)

    With the float bowl removed and the needle and float in place the gas flow should stop when the float is lifted if gas is still coming out you may have debris in the needle/seat or it is damaged.

    Scott


    Thanks Scott,

    It was some debris in the float seat, but it seems we are still getting some overflow somehow. The needle is loosely planted in the seat and moves up when the float comes up, but when we took it apart that needle was in there kind of snug and took a little pull to actually get it out of there to see that there was some debris. . I'm not sure if the float needle should be loose in there or not. And the drain screw is tight on the outside of the bowl. We are thinking now that maybe this overflow that we are getting is just a float lip adjusment now. But im stumped on the seating of that needle. it seems to me the needle should sit in there kind of snug and the pin on the top of it should be what pushed to stop the gas, the way it is now is the pin and the needle have to be pushed up by the float. what do ya think?
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    by ScottX » Mon Jun 18, 2007 1:32 pm

    Check out your other thread ~ post has the diagram of the carb the needles (part #2) pointed end mates with the seat and the pin end mates with the float tab. also the fit is not snug and if you did not bend the tab it should be set to the proper clearance from the factory. If you think the needle and seat are damaged you can get replacement part from your dealer.

    Scott
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    by CRF230RiPPER » Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:22 pm

    ScottX wrote:Check out your other thread ~ post has the diagram of the carb the needles (part #2) pointed end mates with the seat and the pin end mates with the float tab. also the fit is not snug and if you did not bend the tab it should be set to the proper clearance from the factory. If you think the needle and seat are damaged you can get replacement part from your dealer.

    Scott


    Thanks so much for everyones responses it really helped My dad and I get through what should have been a very simple upgrade. It ended up that after the debris was cleared, it was float adjustment /Lip that fixed the overflow problem. During all this we never once touched the fuel "screw" or whatever its called on the 2007, you actually need a special tool for adjusting. The bike seems to be running ok, but not to my standards...im getting some pops on deceleration out of the exhaust and it doesn't appear to be idling the way i'd like it to. I never once touched the idle screw before I did this upgrade as it always ran perfect. The bike is less than a month old. IN the original instructions I followed to do the power up kit ,http://dirtbike.off-road.com/dirtbike/article/articleDetail.jsp?id=380749 the article made no mention of making any fuel screw adjustments other than where the parts are listed it says something about 5/8 turn out. Do you think this may be my problem now? Do i need to make adjustments to the fuel screw device? Also how do I really know if I have the float operating correctly besides the obvious no overflow. Any help would be much appreciated.
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    by NCLR1 » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:10 am

    Yes, you should make fuel screw adjustments. Yes, you should adjust the idle.

    Your popping when decelerating might be cured by adjusting the fuel screw and if the bike is not idling correctly like you said, then it needs to be adjusted.
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