How To: Piston Refresher Course
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    paul turner
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    How To: Piston Refresher Course

    by paul turner » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:40 pm

    A little piston refresher course. Hope I can parley some time cutting help without skipping important things.

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    Mark the cylinder in/ex sides for easy reference to orientation.

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    Mark the piston in/ex. Always use the larger valve recesses as intake.

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    Here we gonna check ring end gaps. The compression and the 2 oil rings only.

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    Push the ring down midway with the piston, thats where you wanna check the ring end gap.
    Top/Comp Ring target gap is .012in. and the Oil Rings end gap target is .028in., per Honda/Clymer.

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    I had to take material off the 2 oil rings,(like .004) so I use the flat side of a cutoff blade on my rotary tool. The compression ring end gap was right on, no grind.

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    Only grind/file one end, square I might add. Here I clean the end(s) with a fine stone.

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    Ring orientation planned. Install one circlip on the left side of piston, gap facing down.
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    Ready to shove it !!

    Here is the part where you decide dry shove, or wet shove. I do the wet shove. :)

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    After insertion, physically move the piston up and down and back and forth. You will feel great resistance up and down. Side to side play should be very noticeable. I demonstrate here with a feeler of .020in.

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    Lube the wristpin journals and pin with oil or oil/MolyLube mixture. Start the pin.

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    Two wash cloths in the CC hold the ConRod at center, roughly. Start the cylinder down it's path, and feed the camchain up its respective hole, slide the pliers thru the chain.

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    Batta bing !

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    Shove one more rag/paper towel in there and drape over exposed stuff. Install the right circlip, gap down.

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    Lightly blow area and towels, then carefully remove the towels.

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    Ease that dude on down with a slight rocking motion, and pulling the camchain up. Leave the pliers.

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    Install left cylinder screw, do not tighten.

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    And there we have piston/ring replacement. :)


    paul
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    by honda_rules_2005 » Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:58 pm

    Thanks heaps, thats an excellent write up. 8) :D
    07 CRF450X
    Pro cercuit T-4 system.
    JD jetting kit,
    Hotcams stage 2 cam,
    CP 13:01 piston,
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    by Aussiecrf230 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:50 am

    Good one Paul.
    Always good to see how others do things.
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    Piston

    by 82911sc » Fri Jan 23, 2009 5:40 am

    Thanks PT
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    by Old-Man » Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:44 am

    Does that plate on the wall say AARP? :lol:


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    by Vee5 » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:33 am

    Nicely done PT- Thanks. Just hope I don't need to reference it anytime soon.
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    by sycraft » Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:13 pm

    One IMPORTANT Step is to be sure that the base gasket is put in place BEFORE the cylinder is installed, otherwise you will get real good at doing it twice... :shock:
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    by shaff » Fri Jan 23, 2009 4:18 pm

    Thanks....now I know that I need a good mechanic more then ever...I'm not sure I even have the rags :D
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    by loff » Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:14 am

    The master at work!!

    Great post
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    by Keiger » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:03 am

    Just what I was needing .for my 250X. I'm not scared anymore.
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    by paul turner » Tue Jan 27, 2009 4:30 pm

    head job with new Honda parts installed. Sweeeet !

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    Easier to shim cam in on the bench.

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    I just hold the cam at correct alignment with left hand while the right hand checks gaps.

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    Keep a record of the final shims and lash values for reference later.

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    Add a little oil or assembly lube to the shims so they don't wander whilst dropping the head. Or, leave them out and lay them on the shim reference chart.

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    Pliers are your best friend here :)

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    Mission accomplished :D



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    by gj2slick » Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:19 pm

    Good job Paul,that write-up should be made into A video or A sticky.

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    by paul turner » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:18 pm

    gj2slick wrote:Good job Paul,that write-up should be made into A video or A sticky.

    Greg...Slick


    Oh heck no. Its just a refresher with pics and a couple tips Greg. The Clymer Manual is the place to hang out.


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    by HONDARACER » Tue Jan 27, 2009 8:30 pm

    Can I buy your old piston and rings?
    I'm a Honda racer and I go real fast
    I got a cute bike and it really hauls azz
    If you see me on the trail, well you better stay back
    Cause I'm a Honda racer!

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    by jmattor » Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:47 pm

    A thing of beauty is a joy forever.....er, well at least until you gotta do it again.

    But, day'em, that sure is pretty Paul. When you gonna break it in? Or have you already?

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