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air filter backfire screen removal
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:24 am
by Ridin Rick
just bought a 2006 450x a month ago... bike is stock..
can I remove the back fire screen and just use the original honda air filter?
do I need the metal outline for structure to hold the air filter?
can you use a twin air flow filter without the original back fire screen?
if I do this before the other mods, it sounds like I am only making the bike leaner. Can I fry a valve?
Re: air filter backfire screen removal
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:38 am
by Smash
Ridin Rick wrote:just bought a 2006 450x a month ago... bike is stock..
can I remove the back fire screen and just use the original honda air filter?
do I need the metal outline for structure to hold the air filter?
can you use a twin air flow filter without the original back fire screen?
if I do this before the other mods, it sounds like I am only making the bike leaner. Can I fry a valve?
I'd wait until you rejet the bike before you mess with the air filter as you will make the bike leaner and they come pretty lean from the factory.
While you can remove the screen you need the metal outline as structure to hold the filter and seal it in place.
Based on personal experience (I melted an air filter that was flame proof) I wouldn't run without a backfire screen unless your Air Filter is fire resistant, the stock one is not. The Twin Air filter is a good choice and makes a nice compliment to the JD jet kit. Also grab a Napalm screw at the same time to make the job easier.
Re: air filter backfire screen removal
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:47 am
by devistation
Ridin Rick wrote:just bought a 2006 450x a month ago... bike is stock..
can I remove the back fire screen and just use the original honda air filter?
do I need the metal outline for structure to hold the air filter?
can you use a twin air flow filter without the original back fire screen?
if I do this before the other mods, it sounds like I am only making the bike leaner. Can I fry a valve?
Yes..... you can take the screen out and use the stock filter or a twin air. You'll probably need to rejet at the same time so you might as well open the airbox up too.... I run a J\D kit but others don't......Just pry the tabs on the screen over and pop it out...
You could also modify the stock exhaust baffle for better flow
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Re: air filter backfire screen removal
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:49 am
by devistation
Smash wrote:Ridin Rick wrote:just bought a 2006 450x a month ago... bike is stock..
can I remove the back fire screen and just use the original honda air filter?
do I need the metal outline for structure to hold the air filter?
can you use a twin air flow filter without the original back fire screen?
if I do this before the other mods, it sounds like I am only making the bike leaner. Can I fry a valve?
I'd wait until you rejet the bike before you mess with the air filter as you will make the bike leaner and they come pretty lean from the factory.
While you can remove the screen you need the metal outline as structure to hold the filter and seal it in place.
Based on personal experience (I melted an air filter that was flame proof) I wouldn't run without a backfire screen unless your Air Filter is fire resistant, the stock one is not. The Twin Air filter is a good choice and makes a nice compliment to the JD jet kit. Also grab a Napalm screw at the same time to make the job easier.
You beat me too this one!!!

Re: air filter backfire screen removal
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:08 am
by Smash
devistation wrote:Smash wrote:Ridin Rick wrote:just bought a 2006 450x a month ago... bike is stock..
can I remove the back fire screen and just use the original honda air filter?
do I need the metal outline for structure to hold the air filter?
can you use a twin air flow filter without the original back fire screen?
if I do this before the other mods, it sounds like I am only making the bike leaner. Can I fry a valve?
I'd wait until you rejet the bike before you mess with the air filter as you will make the bike leaner and they come pretty lean from the factory.
While you can remove the screen you need the metal outline as structure to hold the filter and seal it in place.
Based on personal experience (I melted an air filter that was flame proof) I wouldn't run without a backfire screen unless your Air Filter is fire resistant, the stock one is not. The Twin Air filter is a good choice and makes a nice compliment to the JD jet kit. Also grab a Napalm screw at the same time to make the job easier.
You beat me too this one!!!

Your pics were better!
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:38 am
by JAWS
I use the stock plastic frame with no ill effects. I also didn't buy a flame-retardant filter. I run No-Toil filter oil. It isn't flammable like some other brands. I also don't have backfiring through the carb since I have it jetted right, thanks to the JD kit.
I am not recommending that you run without a flame-retardant filter, it's just where I am right now.
I use the No-Toil filter grease, liberally, on the rim to aid in sealing. Works for me.
As mentioned above, be sure to jet first...
Joe
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:46 am
by Ridin Rick
Wow! Thanks guys for the advice!
Happy New Year!
Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:22 am
by SoylentGreen
JAWS wrote:I use the stock plastic frame with no ill effects. I also didn't buy a flame-retardant filter. I run No-Toil filter oil. It isn't flammable like some other brands. I also don't have backfiring through the carb since I have it jetted right, thanks to the JD kit.
I am not recommending that you run without a flame-retardant filter, it's just where I am right now.
I use the No-Toil filter grease, liberally, on the rim to aid in sealing. Works for me.
As mentioned above, be sure to jet first...
Joe
What Jaws says, also don't wash your filter with any flammable products. The NoToil kit comes with a soap to wash your filter.