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Too bad he's not paired up with Roger D.

Now there's a quote of the day !
Seriously,it is.
I'll bet it'd be a winning combination.
Like I said,that truly was not a fluke, and the fast guys were all on the starting gate on a track that was just freakin' tough,tough,tough.
Oh,Carmichael should not give up his day job.All the "fixin", "I seen him", ad nauseum shows he'll fit right in with the NASCAR types.
Another thing Lawrence does that's a plus is no sickening "I want to thank..............blah,blah,blah, and the Lord Jesus Christ my personal Savior BS.
Doug

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I know there was a massive first turn pileup but did you see how much j-law cut the first turn. Watch the replay.

[mikey526]

I know there was a massive first turn pileup but did you see how much j-law cut the first turn. Watch the replay.

I don't think anyone (officals) even noticed but that was quite a bit...

[lightflight]

so how many more people would have had to crash in order for them to restart that race? It looked like at least half of them got caught up in that mess

[XGiant]

I think J Law is a steaming pile of Pelosi...but damn that kid's got talent...natural ability...whatever you want to call it.
Too bad he's not paired up with Roger D. It's gonna take someone like him to focus the kid and he would be unstoppable.

X2... I hate the kid, but must admit, on this night, he was exceptional. His pulling over for Reed was classy. Reed was going to get him anyway, and J Law is not in the points race, so kudos on both his speed and apparent newly acquired respect!

[JAWS]

All of you Reed haters consider this: He has the respect of Carmichael. He may not be as blinding fast as Stewart, but you cannot win laying in the dirt. Being able to keep it on 2 wheels is as much racing as being fast. As Ricky put it, he will always be there injured or not. The guy makes very few mistakes and he is a great, not good, rider. Love him or hate him, he is current;y the second fastest rider out there and has the ability to beat the fastest.
Joe

[JimDirt]

Yea but Carmichael respects NASCAR too so thats not saying much , and the only reason he is saying that in the first place , is because RC is still part of Suzuki , and is involved with all members on the team , so he has to put his feelings aside , just like Ferry did when him and Reed were on the same Yamaha team , but deep down he thought Reed was a A$$clown (and he is right !)

J-Law is better for the sport than Reed , Lawrence just gets into trouble , just like Johnson,Bailey,Omara , Emig,Hannah ,McGrath so on and so on !

Reed is a whiney sniveling complainer that puts the blame 80% of the time , on everyone else , he has just started to cop to himself being the problem , and only after everyone told him so !(that is setting a poor example for the sport)

And that is not a good example to teach up and coming riders , whom need someone positive to look up to , Stewart , Short ,Carmichael , Carpenter , Dungey , Weimer , all have that influence and show the upmost in character,no matter how they really feel , they show respect to others !! , ,,Reed simply does not ! , and there are plenty of riders that deserve his ride far more than he has shown ,by both in his hack riding tactics , and his childish crybaby additude that sets a poor example for the sport as a whole ! ,

People can put up with a scrapper like Lawrence , but remember the boy who cried Wolf ! , everyone became tired of him real fast , Reed is a perfect example of someone who's antics are getting old and tiresome , and his riding s.... (i was going to say skill , but !)Ability , does not make up for his additude and being a poor example to the sport !!

i still think the race should have been Red Flagged , and riders given the chance to fix their bikes , the outcome would have been far different !!!

Like a said Reed only wins when the better riders are out of contention !................but i'm not bitter............

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Good points there.
I couldn't stand Reed, but someone got to him, most likely DeCoster, but somebody did.
Now he's I hear Mr. Congeniality with the fans, he looks faster and smoother than he ever has been, pretty darn impressive.
Carmichael even said as Reed closed in "Watch Lawerence do something stupid". Wrong.
I just have to give it up to Lawerence. Hey, how many 450 races has he ran anyway? Carmichael sure didn't set the world on fire when he moved up to what were then the big bikes, not that fast he didn't.
The sport has had lots of so-called 'bad boys'....lot's of them. We all know of all kinds of rental car and swimming pool stunts pulled by a whole lot of legends, most alcohol fueled.
We all know what jerks and nasty things drunken 'fans' can say too, some of that crap if I heard it I don't know that I wouldn't be upside their heads either. I hope the boy grows up a bit...but not too much , and kicks butt.
And I'm bored stiff with Stewart. I think it's funny he crashes when pressured, and wouldn't doubt if blazing speed and all he has peaked,and peaked way early.
Otherwise we'll be tortured with what, a rap CD ?
Plus, Lawerence is at least as qualified to be President as what we have right now. Doug

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just like Johnson,Bailey,Omara , Emig,Hannah ,McGrath so on and so on

Jim !
Those guys you just mentioned were and are nothing but great for the sport, all were multi time champions, all had long sucessful careers, what are you talking about wild man ? All continue to be great for the sport, so I don't know where that came from.
Oh,and by the way, all were the sort of riders that if the so-called "G.O.A.T." would have had to beat his name and the farm animal would never have been used in the same sentence,though the farm animal may well speak better English Doug

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I think it is noteworthy that Stewart caused that first turn pileup all by himself. It's not like some rookie went down in front of him. How many times has that happened over the years?!

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I think it is noteworthy that Stewart caused that first turn pileup all by himself. It's not like some rookie went down in front of him. How many times has that happened over the years?!

Excellent point.
I respect and am in awe of his speed when he's on his game, but he's not anything like a legend or unbeatable yet, not by a long shot.
Reed was being gracious and speaking respectfully but honestly when he said "I know his weakness". That weakness is if you're fast enough to pressure him he falls off.
I loathe hype, and he's had more than enough. I pull for him to lose ,and I can't help myself.
One of my favorite moments was when Stefan Everts kicked his a.. at the MXDN (I'l never say MXoN, sorry ).
Apologist say he was taking one for the team.BS.He tried to stay with Everts and kept nearly crashing, it was Everts last race ever and he decided he was going to win,and he did it.
While I enjoy pointing out the obvious lack of competition Carmichael for instance had, I'll say this :
Todays talent is huge,and it's deep, deeper than since the mid 80's.
Look at these young guys- Stewart,Reed,Hill,Villopoto,Alessi,Milsaps,Dungey,yes the bad boy, heck the 250F's east and west is loaded including some blazing fast Euros.
I think as fans we're in for a real treat in coming years.
This kind of depth hasn't been seen for a long time. Doug

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just like Johnson,Bailey,Omara , Emig,Hannah ,McGrath so on and so on

Jim !
Those guys you just mentioned were and are nothing but great for the sport, all were multi time champions, all had long sucessful careers, what are you talking about wild man ? All continue to be great for the sport, so I don't know where that came from.
Oh,and by the way, all were the sort of riders that if the so-called "G.O.A.T." would have had to beat his name and the farm animal would never have been used in the same sentence,though the farm animal may well speak better English Doug

Although I myself like Carmichael, I have to agree that all those guys were awesome for the sport.

Badarse old school J-Law= Ron Lechien

[CRF230RiPPER]

WOW!....there are some real Reed "HATERS" here....all this nonsense about only winning when Stewart goes down, Well so what!! Thats Racing!....I don't see any of the other riders even coming NEAR Stewart when hes out front!...all these Vets...K-dub,Tim Ferry, even Newcomer Villopoto can't catch him when he doesn't fall. At least Reed battled with him at the Anaheim 1 when they both got decent starts!...

Personally I like Reed, always have based on his racing. That being said, I love Stewart too, but seriously watching James roost everyone every weekend does not make for exciting racing and its good to know that AT LEAST REED can catch Stewart if he gets a decent start.

Alessi gets the hole shot 85-90% of the time but takes the whoops likes someones grandmother and falls apart every race!

And where the hell is Villopoto???..Ivan tedesco?...ANYONE??? nowhere...except behind James and Chad!

As far as what J-LAW did....its just incredible, He actually let Chad Reed pass him..and I think he could have put up a better fight...but they're friends and J-law had nothing to lose by coming in second. If anything, the only thing that really stopped J-law from winning that race was his stamina.

Villopoto has yet to pull something like this off in the 450 class....and hes damn talented. Its truly Amazing what J-law did...hes a dick...but the kid is talented no doubt. He was supposed to race 450's at INDY...but got sick or something, but I think he had the 2nd fastest lap times in practice that day. So I'm pretty sure this was his first official 450 supercross main event!

In any case....Daytona was an exciting Race!..and thats what the sport needs!...villains...good racing...crashing...and comebacks.....all good for the sport!

The fact that Reed has never won a championship with James healthy makes for a great opportunity for Reed this year to try and win the championship. Personally I think Reed feeds into some of that stuff in his own head and wants to prove something. James falling is James fault, and thats Racing. If Stewart stays healthy all year and loses to Reed in the points...It will be because Chad was the better racer this year.

[JimDirt]

just like Johnson,Bailey,Omara , Emig,Hannah ,McGrath so on and so on

Jim !
Those guys you just mentioned were and are nothing but great for the sport, all were multi time champions, all had long sucessful careers, what are you talking about wild man ? All continue to be great for the sport, so I don't know where that came from.
Oh,and by the way, all were the sort of riders that if the so-called "G.O.A.T." would have had to beat his name and the farm animal would never have been used in the same sentence,though the farm animal may well speak better English Doug

That is what i said , those guys were great for the sport , REED IS NOT , that was my point , i said everyone can deal with the "Bad Boy Image" as the likes of those i mentioned ,which Lawrence falls into , but everyone(self included) are just plain tired of Reeds additude/sportsmanship , and for the fact that i'm sorry but his riding ability does not back up his primadona additude and there are far more deserving riders of a factory ride , like Carpenter for example , my point was , that everyone gets down on Lawrence , yet he is exactly what made this sport popular , Reed is ruining it , and giving people a bad taste in their mouths

Did that make more sense?? or explain what i said better ??

[JimDirt]

WOW!....there are some real Reed "HATERS" here....all this nonsense about only winning when Stewart goes down, Well so what!! Thats Racing!....I don't see any of the other riders even coming NEAR Stewart when hes out front!...all these Vets...K-dub,Tim Ferry, even Newcomer Villopoto can't catch him when he doesn't fall. At least Reed battled with him at the Anaheim 1 when they both got decent starts!...

Personally I like Reed, always have based on his racing. That being said, I love Stewart too, but seriously watching James roost everyone every weekend does not make for exciting racing and its good to know that AT LEAST REED can catch Stewart if he gets a decent start.

Alessi gets the hole shot 85-90% of the time but takes the whoops likes someones grandmother and falls apart every race!

And where the hell is Villopoto???..Ivan tedesco?...ANYONE??? nowhere...except behind James and Chad!

As far as what J-LAW did....its just incredible, He actually let Chad Reed pass him..and I think he could have put up a better fight...but they're friends and J-law had nothing to lose by coming in second. If anything, the only thing that really stopped J-law from winning that race was his stamina.

Villopoto has yet to pull something like this off in the 450 class....and hes damn talented. Its truly Amazing what J-law did...hes a dick...but the kid is talented no doubt. He was supposed to race 450's at INDY...but got sick or something, but I think he had the 2nd fastest lap times in practice that day. So I'm pretty sure this was his first official 450 supercross main event!

In any case....Daytona was an exciting Race!..and thats what the sport needs!...villains...good racing...crashing...and comebacks.....all good for the sport!

The fact that Reed has never won a championship with James healthy makes for a great opportunity for Reed this year to try and win the championship. Personally I think Reed feeds into some of that stuff in his own head and wants to prove something. James falling is James fault, and thats Racing. If Stewart stays healthy all year and loses to Reed in the points...It will be because Chad was the better racer this year.

No... just lucky , not better !

Your first point about them battling ,in A1 no Reed took Stewart out , just like Toronto , and one other race , he does not battle with anyone , he takes out the competition as that is his ONLY hope of winning with them on the track , as a rider he sucks ! and a sportsman he sucks , that is why i dont like him , he whines , pouts , then purposely takes the rider out that is a threat at the moment , and Reed has never won anything with Stewart and Carmichael healthy , so he is no champion , a champion EARNS the title , he "lucked" into both of his , nothing more..Stewart winning all the time boring?? , so when RC won EVERY moto for a perfect season , that was boring?? no it was a spectacular event , and it was amazing to watch , the thrill is to see if ANYONE can catch them , that is the excitement i see at every race , indoors or outdoors , it may be boring to you because no one challenges Stewart , the only ones that ever have , is Alessi and Carmichael,, Reed snivels he gets a bad start and thats why he doesnt win , gee stewart has come from dead last place how many times to win , and win by 10+ seconds , and that is boring ?? , and Reed is a Champion?? NOT ! , ...just my opinion...but i call it how i see it !

Oh and i thought what Lawrence did , in almost winning and being a curtious rider , was VERY Impressive !! , hats off to him !! , he has more heart for the sport than Reed ever will , Reed is about Reed , not the sport , and that is BAD for the sport !!.and that is why most of the people i know , as well as myself , dislike him so much , when we watch the races , every time Reed pulls one of his moves , all of us in unison , say Did u see what Reed just did !! , ten bazillon viewers can all be wrong , about him , there has to be something to it !

Reed is the only rider i do not like with the exception of McGrath , as he had the same additude , but with 10X the talent as Reed , i feel Reed is a McGrath clone/wannabe , except with far less talent