2006 450r problems, Need help
  • alexowe
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    2006 450r problems, Need help

    by alexowe » Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:44 am

    Hi all, new here and helping to get some advice.

    My bike has a few problems,
    -idle is very unreliable and is quite high when hot, when idle screw is turned down then it will stall.
    -takes awhile to start when cold, can be an absolute b***h to start when is is hot, taking up over half an hour to start at times.
    -over heats easily.
    -will stall out unpredictably

    Things I have checked
    -valve clearances, valve seats and piston.
    -flushed coolant system and added new coolant.
    -carbourater been rebuilt with new seals and jets.
    -flushed engine oil.
    -clean air filter, new fuel and oil filters.

    Looking for any suggestions on what to try next. Trying to all the cheap/free stuff first. Thanks in advance.
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    JimDirt
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    Re: 2006 450r problems, Need help

    by JimDirt » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:38 am

    Welcome to the site !! \:D/

    You did not mention replacing the Needle and Needle Jet , the Needle Jet is the long brass tube that holds the Main Jet and the Needle goes thru , when it and/or the needle wears out , it will oval out , your idle will be inconsistent and your bike will idle high , then the next time try to die or not idle at all , you adjust the idle and the bike is way too high , then drops back down without adjustment , you need to replace both the Needle and Needle Jet together , also , did you replace the Floating Valve Seal on the carb slide ?? , it can affect idle as well , you also did not mention the Accelerator Pump , it needs to be checked to make sure it's actually squirting and if so that it is timed correctly and is just barely missing the slide when the throttle is given (while the engine is off for testing , and the timing is set by a screw where the throttle cable wraps around the wheel on the carb under the black cover)

    Overheating is usually caused by a lean condition , so even if the jets are clean or new does not guarantee they are correct for your elevation and temperatures your riding at , if the jets were what comes with it stock and you are not a Sea Level , then its not jetted correctly and will most likely be lean , which will also account for the hard starting since you have eliminated valves being out of spec , unfortunately , you might have to spend a little more , obviously the checking of the AP pump squirt can be done for free , but the rest of the parts will need to be replaced , but most are fairly inexpensive

    This is the recommended jetting specs , if you're not within these specs , this could be part of your issue


    Jetting Guide for Main Jet:(pilot 45) CRF450R/X

    Sea level....165
    2000 ft.......162
    4000 ft.......160
    6000 ft.......158
    8000 ft.......155


    Temperature/Elevation:
    One main jet size (up/down) for every 2,000 feet or 25 degrees in temp.
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