[sweetcrf]

which one is better?why?

[combatcraig58d]

Tough question. Both are great bikes. I bought my 13 year old daughter an 06 150f for the electric start and it's very easy to ride for beginners. It is well built and has been a fantastic bike for her. It IS a little heavy (actually heavier than my 450r) but she does really good on it and loves it. A buddy of mine just bought an 07 85r and it is a screamer. I rode it and was impressed with the components and how light it was. It will be easier to rebuild when the time comes but it takes more talent to ride. It is VERY peaky. If your kid is going to spend most of the time on a motocross track then the 85r is a great choice. We do mostly trail riding with a little track duty so the 4 stroke is a better bike for my girl. Coincidentally, this 07' CR85r was actually used (about a month old). The guy that traded it in said he bought it for his ten year old boy and it scared him so much he wouldn't go near it, lol. It's not a beginners bike unless your kid is pretty tall and or agressive. Unfortunately my buddy's kid just broke his shoulder because he got spit off of it on a corner while in third gear. He just plain out rode his ability. Fortunately, he'll be riding again in 8 weeks and the bike faired much better than he did.

[sweetcrf]

any one else have any thing to say

[rideredcrf100]

150 if you just ride,85 if ur a hardcore racer.

[High Flyer]

CombatCraig pretty much said it all.

Honda CRF150's are made for trails, they are easy too ride and are bullet proof and reliable.

Honda CR85's are made for racing, they are race bikes. go to any dealer ship and they will tell you. they are made for the track not for trails. 85's haft to be ran hard, becuase that's what there ment to do. Although they are VERY fast for the size of the bike that's becuase there made for racing.

[sweetcrf]

but i like fast!

[High Flyer]

what about a CRF250

[AT]

go with the 150R!

[bernkell]

Here is my 2 cents ,I purchased a used 04 CR 85 for my son to step up to.The suspension is better yes it is faster but you can take power away by putting a washer in the exaust port and continue to drill it it as more power is needed.The 150 is definitely heavier than it,but it does deliver smooth power.My son is 7 right now and has just putted around on the 85 some open trails no tight stuff.It is a great bike it can be used as a trail bike I grew up on 2-stroke with anything it takes practice and control you will learn the power as with anything I like the smaller 2-strokes over the 4-strokes less the new CRF150R I probably would have bought him that if I did not get a great deal on the used 85 Bernie

[sweetcrf]

ya I'm thinking about the 150r i just want to make sure i am making the right choice

[bernkell]

If you are thinking new I would not hesitate to get the 150R it is a great Bike I think all bikes can be used for anything you just adapt your riding, If you are trail riding spend the money on a after market kickstand the 150F has one that is the downside to the others

[sweetcrf]

do you know any where i can get a kick stand crf's only doesn't seem to have any

[bernkell]

You should ask Ken the owner of the site he may be able to get them just doesn't have them in the catolog otherwise I think a company like the name of probillit or something like that

[combatcraig58d]

The thread says "150f or 85r". Now we're talking about the 150r. If you don't mind spending over 4 grand on a minibike then that is an excellent choice. Yesterday I went to a new riding area and had a blast. It was all trails. Many were tight/technical, first gear only. While I was picking my way through the trees and creeks I thought to myself that I'm so glad I and my daughters are on 4 strokes. A two stroke guy would have been working his butt off, modulating the clutch etc. You could have done it buy you'd have to be skilled or you'll be killing it all the time. My 450r is geared to high for the areas I was most of the day and I got quite a workout, as did my buddy on a WR400.

The bottom line is if you're gonna be on a track or open fast areas, the 85r is best. If you're gonna be on slow, tight and technical trails then a two stroke is a lot of work and a 4 stroke (150f/150r) is a much better choice. Let us know what you get.

[High Flyer]

The thread says "150f or 85r". Now we're talking about the 150r. If you don't mind spending over 4 grand on a minibike then that is an excellent choice. Yesterday I went to a new riding area and had a blast. It was all trails. Many were tight/technical, first gear only. While I was picking my way through the trees and creeks I thought to myself that I'm so glad I and my daughters are on 4 strokes. A two stroke guy would have been working his butt off, modulating the clutch etc. You could have done it buy you'd have to be skilled or you'll be killing it all the time. My 450r is geared to high for the areas I was most of the day and I got quite a workout, as did my buddy on a WR400.

The bottom line is if you're gonna be on a track or open fast areas, the 85r is best. If you're gonna be on slow, tight and technical trails then a two stroke is a lot of work and a 4 stroke (150f/150r) is a much better choice. Let us know what you get.

Craig's story about riding in the tight trails and only being in first gear and 2-strokes having a hard time is right dont forget CRF150's are air cooled, CR85's are liquid cooled, and if you not getting enuff air into the radiatior too cool the bike down you might over heat.