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djh65



Joined: 29 Jan 2007
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Location: Santa Rosa, CA.

2006 Honda CRF450X

PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject: Need some help with high siding. Reply with quote

So last year my son and I were riding on a lake bed. It was really slick and muddy. I was working on my sliding but found when I got around too far the back tire would catch and launch me. This was no big deal as we were riding on mud. So 3 weeks ago I was on a blue groove fire trail. Coming about a turn about 20 mph and the back tire started sliding. I did my best to steer into it with no luck. I got a quick trip to the ground with a torn ligament in my ring finger and a pretty bad concussion. Anyways my question is this. What do you do when the back end gets too far around?
Thanks,
David
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ThumperX



Joined: 14 Jan 2007
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Location: Bakersfield, CA

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutch it.
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Just me



Joined: 28 Feb 2008
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Location: Sonoran Desert


PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stop the swing before you get to full lock or you are going down. Roll out of the throttle or clutch in.
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djh65



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it came around so fast. I got off it but it kept sliding.
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ThumperX



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At that point all you can really do is tap the rear brake if possible otherwise your getting dirty.
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topgun



Joined: 30 Aug 2006
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Location: Perth Western Australia

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depending on speed and terrain I would be leaning it over more to counteract possible highside and steer with the throttle

Failing that try strightening the bars - sounds weird but if you can get the front wheel going sideways a bit as well then no high side but you need a bit of room as you will be in a semi controlled sideways drift
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djh65



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

after giving it lots of thought the skid mark was only about 10 feet. The time to make some sort of correction was not really there. It was slide slap. Oh well
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crfsonly
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Joined: 01 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wish i could help you...but high-siding is how i shattered my tail bone...so i would only be able to help you high-side in spectacular form!
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djh65



Joined: 29 Jan 2007
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2006 Honda CRF450X

PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My girl friend she said she wished I had my helmet cam on it would have been a mountain of plastic bits but the card would have showed it all. Geee thanks. lol
David
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Trogdor



Joined: 11 Aug 2007
Posts: 213
Location: Simi Valley


PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

topgun wrote:
Depending on speed and terrain I would be leaning it over more to counteract possible highside and steer with the throttle


BINGO!!! We have a winner!!! Here's a pic of Gene Romero showing proper execution of the technique:

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woodsman



Joined: 30 Oct 2006
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Location: Carnation Washington(not DC)

2005 Honda CRF450R

PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still trying to learn how to throw around a 450, but I'm learning on a little xr100 in a very dusty flat track. Try a smaller bike that you can control no matter what. I can break the rear wheel lose on that thing in 4 gear, and its geared pretty tall. It was really scary the first few times, but that pic above is dead on. Try sliding in sand also. Wink
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crfsonly
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

here's a tip...it's less painful to lay it down than to high-side. so, keep the bike low and throttle control is critical...if you get into the throttle too fast or hard the back end will come around and then it's over.
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WFOWOODS450



Joined: 31 May 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wanna stop high siding? stop quickly closing the throttle!!! if u stay in the gas and even give it more the tire will lose traction and the bike cant high side. Worse comes to worse u low side and get back up. your biggest mistake is getting out of the throttle, the bike is immediately going to hook up and launch u like a rag doll.
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